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== FAQ/he‎ ->  He/גנוקאש‎  ==
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== Open Hebrew Translation Issues ==
  
Hi,
 
# we use the ISO code as '''prefix for page names''' here, else we do not know: is it hebrew or yiddish? Both share the same writing, but are totally different languages.
 
# Let us start with the main page, so I can link it from the english page. BTW, already done.
 
# mark all of your pages with at least <nowiki>[[Category:He]]</nowiki>. That way you can find them by category. Better you append with '|' pagename (without prefix) to get the proper sort order.
 
:--[[User:Fell|Fell]] ([[User talk:Fell|talk]]) 19:54, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 
 
 
Hi,
 
 
wikipedia now have a nice feater undet beta that makes tramslating much more frendly, I was wondering if it is (or will be) posibble to use it on this site as well.
 
also, how do i nake the hebrew pages RTL?
 
thanks
 
:* I saw you resloved the RTL issue.
 
:* Updates of the mediawiki software and extensions must be dicussed with the server administrator [[User:Warlord]]. We had some discussion at https://lists.gnucash.org/logs/2021/02/11.html#T15:43:39. I hope, if warlord has some time, we can set up the wiki per language. Then we can drop the pagename prefix and do more per language configuration.
 
:BTW, you can remove resolved issues here always.
 
:--[[User:Fell|Fell]] ([[User talk:Fell|talk]]) 21:43, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 
 
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It was mostly trial and error, I just copied stuff from other Hebrew sites. At first for the Page itself then for the Table of Contents.
 
I'm not sure it is the right way of doing it, but it worked...
 
:That is, what I had donne too. The official starting is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Directionality_support.
 
:--[[User:Fell|Fell]] ([[User talk:Fell|talk]]) 10:41, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
 
 
BTW, What will be the best/easiest way to grab a list of all pages that I'll need to work on translating? (I haven't figure that one out yet ;-))
 
:I think, I moved the most important parts from this discussion to [[Wiki Localization]]. That means
 
:# counter check and remove the content here.
 
:# add further questions about the complex there as 'ToDo's.
 
 
:Was it intended to add pages to [https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Category:Development <nowiki>[[Category:Development]]</nowiki>]?
 
 
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Not intentionally, if I did, I was probably trying to copy it over to he page for later translation work...
 
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== index.php?title=Doxygen&diff=next&oldid=16456 ==
 
 
No, the english page should link the english WP. I have reverted it. Perhaps you wanted to edit the hebrew version?
 
--[[User:Fell|Fell]] ([[User talk:Fell|talk]]) 19:39, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
 
 
== [[He/רשיון]] ==
 
 
This is a over 10 years old discussion. I think I would not translate the links of [[GnuCash#Historical Information]]. I catched an obsolete link there: we switched from svn to git a long time ago.
 
 
Perhaps you would better work on something else like
 
:[[Windows Installer Translation]] or
 
:[[Translation#Translating_the_GnuCash_Guide_and_Help]]
 
:--[[User:Fell|Fell]] ([[User talk:Fell|talk]]) 11:10, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 
 
== [[נהול הפרויקט]] ==
 
 
Also here I see no reason to translate it. For administrative task you have to talk English with the other maintainers.
 
:--[[User:Fell|Fell]] ([[User talk:Fell|talk]]) 14:39, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
 
 
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Right, already trashed it, same for the historical stuff...
 
:Then you can also remove the resolved sections here.
 
Still can not figure out a methodological way to get all relevant pages I'll need to work on. It feels like strolling blindly in the woods; on each page, I'm clicking on links to other pages that points to more pages...
 
  
 
--[[User:Avma|Avma]] ([[User talk:Avma|talk]]) 09:13, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 
--[[User:Avma|Avma]] ([[User talk:Avma|talk]]) 09:13, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
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:;Category:Help: is IMHO too general. For Backup aside of "Usage" something like "Users Maintenance" would be more appropriate.
 
:;Category:Help: is IMHO too general. For Backup aside of "Usage" something like "Users Maintenance" would be more appropriate.
  
== Language selection box ==
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== Categories in wrong language ==
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I saw it just in [[He/תיצור מיקום]]. I belive you have in between localized your categories.
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There a also still a few unprefixed categories in [[Special:Categories]].
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:--[[User:Fell|Fell]] ([[User talk:Fell|talk]]) 21:14, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
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:Thanks...
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--[[User:Avma|Avma]] ([[User talk:Avma|talk]]) 10:01, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
  
If you translate the languages to hebrew it is hard for latin writing only readers, to select another language.
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== https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/index.php?title=He/תיצור_מיקום&diff=prev&oldid=19994 ==
Please keep the displayed text as in the box of the main page.
 
  
BTW, sorry, that the <nowiki>{{pagename}}</nowiki> function works only for latin writing.
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In more recent pages we put the categories into the abstract—the section before the first section header. In between I think the first line is the best place. Then you can save scrolling to change them. --[[User:Fell|Fell]] ([[User talk:Fell|talk]]) 07:21, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
:--[[User:Fell|Fell]] ([[User talk:Fell|talk]]) 21:36, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
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: This is a good idea, although this was pretty much the first and only page I've found it there... if you would like me to, I can move them up on English pages as I translate them. in the Hebrew pages I place the RTL direction stuff first, then Language box and then (from now on + recap) the categories... is this ok? --[[User:Avma|Avma]] ([[User talk:Avma|talk]]) 08:07, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
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::Go for it! --[[User:Fell|Fell]] ([[User talk:Fell|talk]]) 17:45, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
  
== GTK2 ==
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== No Category "Spamming" ==
  
I would not "spam" with categories.
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As Linux is a subcategory of <q>Operating system</q> there is no need to add both. BTW we should not use <q>OS</q> as 2 uppercase letters are reserved for regions.
  
GTK is the library, which creates the user interface of the Gnome desktop ans several programs like GnuCash similar to Qt for KDE. The tools mentioned there serve only to tweak the appearance in contrast to the collection in the tools page.
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Feel free to improve the category tree. --[[User:Fell|Fell]] ([[User talk:Fell|talk]]) 04:45, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
:If you did not install strange GTK themes, you should be almost happy with the defaults.
 
:Build is about compiling etc the program.
 
:Installation is about installing Gnucash on different OSes and similar like Flatpak
 
:Version should be avoided as every software has a version. "GnuCash Version" was a mistake for which I found no way to revert it.
 
:--[[User:Fell|Fell]] ([[User talk:Fell|talk]]) 22:20, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
 

Latest revision as of 04:45, 31 July 2021

Open Hebrew Translation Issues

--Avma (talk) 09:13, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Right, I know the feeling. When the wiki started as https://linuxwiki.de/GnuCash, we had german user and english developer pages. When we moved to wiki.gnucash.org the userpages got translated and the context was no longer obvisious. Later we started to use Special:Categories, but older pages are still not categorized. Perhaps you can add categories while you read the page?
Here is the list of all pages: Special:AllPages. There are not so much. ;-)
Starting from GnuCash
Using GnuCash is the only real user page.
Documentation is multi -medial and -lingual.
FAQ in theory should only be a link farm to real content. Pages linked there are often following more recent standards. In fact after reordering and grouping the questions, we created theme specific pages.
Pages about communication IRC, Mailing Lists, Bugzilla are versatil for users and devs and so perhaps of higher priority. But some pages linked there like Bugzilla Administration are maintainer-only.
One indicator about priority: Did you see a link in https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash-htdocs/blob/master/po/he.po like Contributing_to_GnuCash?
--Fell (talk) 11:24, 23 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for that list Frank, looks like there are quite a lot of old and not so relevant stuff in there... I wouldn't mind adding categories to en pages as well, do we have a list of preferred categories we would like to categorize by? --Avma (talk) 07:45, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

OT
You are now promoted to editors and can directly move pages and also delete your old empty pages.
Tip
You can also create category hierarchies by adding a category to a category page. See my recent changes. As MacOS is a subcategory of Operating System, Operating System is no longer required.
The fine tuning of this has still to be done.
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We develope the topology on demand.
--Fell (talk) 12:05, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
Category
Help: is IMHO too general. For Backup aside of "Usage" something like "Users Maintenance" would be more appropriate.

Categories in wrong language

I saw it just in He/תיצור מיקום. I belive you have in between localized your categories.

There a also still a few unprefixed categories in Special:Categories.

--Fell (talk) 21:14, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
Thanks...

--Avma (talk) 10:01, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/index.php?title=He/תיצור_מיקום&diff=prev&oldid=19994

In more recent pages we put the categories into the abstract—the section before the first section header. In between I think the first line is the best place. Then you can save scrolling to change them. --Fell (talk) 07:21, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

This is a good idea, although this was pretty much the first and only page I've found it there... if you would like me to, I can move them up on English pages as I translate them. in the Hebrew pages I place the RTL direction stuff first, then Language box and then (from now on + recap) the categories... is this ok? --Avma (talk) 08:07, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
Go for it! --Fell (talk) 17:45, 28 July 2021 (UTC)

No Category "Spamming"

As Linux is a subcategory of Operating system there is no need to add both. BTW we should not use OS as 2 uppercase letters are reserved for regions.

Feel free to improve the category tree. --Fell (talk) 04:45, 31 July 2021 (UTC)